Seibon Carbon Dry Carbon Fibre Parts
Another player has joined the Nissan GT-R carbon fibre body parts game with the announcement from Seibon Carbon that they are also releasing their own dry carbon fibre OE style hood and trunk.
The parts are looking to be in a finished state but have not been priced on their respective vendor websites yet. We’re expecting these to go on sale early November.
Source: Vividracing via NAGTROC
Link: Seibon Carbon Home Page
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This is fake Dry Carbon product. It just regular wet laid with flat clear coat on top of it. Close up images of the hood shows the streaks of spray job. NICE TRY!
I have ordered Seibon products before and the fitment and quality is awful. I have to send the product back with my own cost to get a replacement due to their own quality issue. I would buy from the reputable japanese company which have much better QC. I have heard that Seibon products are made in china and they are cheaply made.
I have seen many Seibon products in the past on show cars and personally dealt with them. Until they produce a quality product and create there own designs instead of replicating every Japanese manufacturer out there (Not talking about OEM), I will not use there products on my GT-R or any other car for that matter. I refuse to support this company.
John
wow.. thanks for the info guys.. i was almost getting excited there for a minute…
Seibon are knockoff artists in the worst way. While these first products may just be OEM molds produced in low quality carbon (and given a matte finish to *appear* dry), it’s only a matter of time before they start counterfeiting whatever original designs from japanese mfgr’s.
If someone can afford a GT-R, they need to either leave it stock or pay for the quality and R&D that goes into genuine products and not bother with this crap.
Wow. Did anyone actually do any research before posting their comments. I just spoke to a sales rep at Seibon Carbon and he assured me these are REAL DRY CARBON products – the hood weighs 13.2lbs with scoops and the trunk weighs 5.5lbs. These are definitely NOT wet carbon with a matte clear. And they may copy other company designs, but at least I can then afford quality parts that other companies charge ridiculous prices for – i.e. $2180 for Mines Carbon Fiber Canards???
just went to sema..been going/working every year for the past 7 years (company to be un-named)..I saw there “dry” carbon “style” hood and its up to par with their other carbon parts..pretty crappy. it is NOT dry carbon and for those of you who spotted it right off the bat..good eyes..Dragonmr2 –the rep who told you it was real dry carbon is smoking some good stuff and needs to share with all of us. you can make a light regular carbon fiber hood, just lay less carbon and vacuum out most of the resin…its pretty pathetic..i wonder if they even know how to create a dry carbon hood..
I’ve been called the King of Douchebags, but this takes the cake!! It’s time that I pass the crown down to the owner of Seibon who’s selling this garbage as “Dry Carbon” to the consumers. You’ve been warned!! If you buy it and find out later its fake, your just a douche for not listening!!
Acatully, these are prototype pictures for the quality is not the best. These are 100% autoclaved pre-preg dry carbon fiber. You guys must have amazing vision to tell pre-preg carbon vs fiber from these crappy pictures, it’s obviousnone of you have a clue about composites.
I inspect CFRP components almost on a regular basis for ISO approval. While most of it is unidirectional and/or using a poly-ether-ketone matrix instead of polyester resin, I still see weave/resin parts occasionally.
From my experience, if the part is made off of a very good tool/mold, it is very hard to visually decipher between a wet-lay composite and a pre-preg composite, especially once clear coat or more ‘decorative’ features are added.
There are very simple test procedures to determine construction, like burnout resin/fiber ratio tests and multiple tensile/strain tests.
In the end, for automotive ‘decorative’ parts, it does not matter. The repeat stresses on a hood or trunk are so minimal when compared to what composites are actually intended for, that you can use a completely horrid wet lay and be perfectly fine for the life cycle of a vehicle. I still don’t understand why companies don’t use S-glass and core, and then put a single layer of pre-preg on for a “carbon fiber” look. You will far exceed the strength needed for the component, and it will save in weight and cost.
In fact, since we deal with most of the raw carbon suppliers in the industry, I can guarantee you that the pre-preg or weave used by automotive ‘decorative’ parts manufacturers use lower modulus carbon than S-glass. So using S-glass would improve the strength of the part.
My two cents.
I can assure anyone that the quality of the wet carbon hood and trunk are terrible. I had the hood, trunk and wing on my GTR for a few weeks until taking them off in favor of a different manufacturer. First of all the parts weigh as much, if not more than stock, the fitment is terrible and many hours of work had to go into modifying them to make them fit. The hood and trunk lines don’t match up to the body correctly, and the hood is actually somewhat dangerous because it flaps around over 100mph and gets air (lift) underneath and starts to warp. I tried to contact Siebon to be refunded for the parts and they would not. I can’t say anything about the dry carbon because I havn’t seen it myself, but the wet carbon is horrible. Do not buy this product.